Fitness questions and answers for May 29, 2007
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Form & Fitness Q & A
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Carrie Cheadle, MA (www.carriecheadle.com) is a Sports Psychology consultant who has dedicated her career to helping athletes of all ages and abilities perform to their potential. Carrie specialises in working with cyclists, in disciplines ranging from track racing to mountain biking. She holds a bachelors degree in Psychology from Sonoma State University as well as a masters degree in Sport Psychology from John F. Kennedy University.
Dave Palese (www.davepalese.com) is a USA Cycling licensed coach and masters' class road racer with 16 years' race experience. He coaches racers and riders of all abilities from his home in southern Maine, USA, where he lives with his wife Sheryl, daughter Molly, and two cats, Miranda and Mu-Mu.
Kelby Bethards, MD received a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering from Iowa State University (1994) before obtaining an M.D. from the University of Iowa College of Medicine in 2000. Has been a racing cyclist 'on and off' for 20 years, and when time allows, he races Cat 3 and 35+. He is a team physician for two local Ft Collins, CO, teams, and currently works Family Practice in multiple settings: rural, urgent care, inpatient and the like.
Fiona Lockhart (www.trainright.com) is a USA Cycling Expert Coach, and holds certifications from USA Weightlifting (Sports Performance Coach), the National Strength and Conditioning Association (Certified Strength and Conditioning Coach), and the National Academy for Sports Nutrition (Primary Sports Nutritionist). She is the Sports Science Editor for Carmichael Training Systems, and has been working in the strength and conditioning and endurance sports fields for over 10 years; she's also a competitive mountain biker.
Eddie Monnier (www.velo-fit.com) is a USA Cycling certified Elite Coach and a Category II racer. He holds undergraduate degrees in anthropology (with departmental honors) and philosophy from Emory University and an MBA from The Wharton School of Business.
Eddie is a proponent of training with power. He coaches cyclists (track, road and mountain bike) of all abilities and with wide ranging goals (with and without power meters). He uses internet tools to coach riders from any geography.
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David Fleckenstein, MPT (www.physiopt.com) is a physical therapist practicing in Boise, ID. His clients have included World and U.S. champions, Olympic athletes and numerous professional athletes. He received his B.S. in Biology/Genetics from Penn State and his Master's degree in Physical Therapy from Emory University. He specializes in manual medicine treatment and specific retraining of spine and joint stabilization musculature. He is a former Cat I road racer and Expert mountain biker.
Since 1986 Steve Hogg (www.cyclefitcentre.com) has owned and operated Pedal Pushers, a cycle shop specialising in rider positioning and custom bicycles. In that time he has positioned riders from all cycling disciplines and of all levels of ability with every concievable cycling problem.They include World and National champions at one end of the performance spectrum to amputees and people with disabilities at the other end.
Current riders that Steve has positioned include Davitamon-Lotto's Nick Gates, Discovery's Hayden Roulston, National Road Series champion, Jessica Ridder and National and State Time Trial champion, Peter Milostic.
Pamela Hinton has a bachelor's degree in Molecular Biology and a doctoral degree in Nutritional Sciences, both from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She did postdoctoral training at Cornell University and is now an assistant professor of Nutritional Sciences at the University of Missouri-Columbia where she studies the effects of iron deficiency on adaptations to endurance training and the consequences of exercise-associated changes in menstrual function on bone health.
Pam was an All-American in track while at the UW. She started cycling competitively in 2003 and is the defending Missouri State Road Champion. Pam writes a nutrition column for Giana Roberge's Team Speed Queen Newsletter.
Dario Fredrick (www.wholeathlete.com) is an exercise physiologist and head coach for Whole Athlete™. He is a former category 1 & semi-pro MTB racer. Dario holds a masters degree in exercise science and a bachelors in sport psychology.
Scott Saifer (www.wenzelcoaching.com) has a Masters Degree in exercise physiology and sports psychology and has personally coached over 300 athletes of all levels in his 10 years of coaching with Wenzel Coaching.
Kendra Wenzel (www.wenzelcoaching.com) is a head coach with Wenzel Coaching with 17 years of racing and coaching experience and is coauthor of the book Bike Racing 101.
Steve Owens (www.coloradopremiertraining.com) is a USA Cycling certified coach, exercise physiologist and owner of Colorado Premier Training. Steve has worked with both the United States Olympic Committee and Guatemalan Olympic Committee as an Exercise Physiologist. He holds a B.S. in Exercise & Sports Science and currently works with multiple national champions, professionals and World Cup level cyclists.
Through his highly customized online training format, Steve and his handpicked team of coaches at Colorado Premier Training work with cyclists and multisport athletes around the world.
Brett Aitken (www.cycle2max.com) is a Sydney Olympic gold medalist. Born in Adelaide, Australia in 1971, Brett got into cycling through the cult sport of cycle speedway before crossing over into road and track racing. Since winning Olympic gold in the Madison with Scott McGrory, Brett has been working on his coaching business and his www.cycle2max.com website.
Richard Stern (www.cyclecoach.com) is Head Coach of Richard Stern Training, a Level 3 Coach with the Association of British Cycling Coaches, a Sports Scientist, and a writer. He has been professionally coaching cyclists and triathletes since 1998 at all levels from professional to recreational. He is a leading expert in coaching with power output and all power meters. Richard has been a competitive cyclist for 20 years
Andy Bloomer (www.cyclecoach.com) is an Associate Coach and sport scientist with Richard Stern Training. He is a member of the Association of British Cycling Coaches (ABCC) and a member of the British Association of Sport and Exercise Sciences (BASES). In his role as Exercise Physiologist at Staffordshire University Sports Performance Centre, he has conducted physiological testing and offered training and coaching advice to athletes from all sports for the past 4 years. Andy has been a competitive cyclist for many years.
Michael Smartt (www.cyclecoach.com) is an Associate Coach with Richard Stern Training. He holds a Masters degree in exercise physiology and is USA Cycling Expert Coach. Michael has been a competitive cyclist for over 10 years and has experience coaching road and off-road cyclists, triathletes and Paralympians.
Kim Morrow (www.elitefitcoach.com) has competed as a Professional Cyclist and Triathlete, is a certified USA Cycling Elite Coach, a 4-time U.S. Masters National Road Race Champion, and a Fitness Professional.
Her coaching group, eliteFITcoach, is based out of the Southeastern United States, although they coach athletes across North America. Kim also owns MyEnduranceCoach.com, a resource for cyclists, multisport athletes & endurance coaches around the globe, specializing in helping cycling and multisport athletes find a coach.
PowerCranks
Lateral knee pain
Beating that final hill
Arch cleats - a rebuttal
Arch cleats and pedal release
Foot positioning and Q-factor
Burning feet sensation
Sesamoiditis
PowerCranks
I am a 33 year-old male, Cat. II cyclist that has been racing for over 10 years. I felt my power output (I use a Powertap) had been pretty stagnant over the past few years with no real increase in output so I bought PowerCranks as a way to help with performance.
I started to use them on an occasional basis from October '06 until January '07. In January I began to use them exclusively, riding approximately 5-10 hours a week (it was hard to ride for extended periods of time). At first I noticed an increase in power output. However, when it came time to race, I just felt flat. At first, I attributed this to my cadence being too slow, and began to do speed drills. Right now, my cadence is where it normally should be while riding and racing (90 rpm) however, performance is just not there in races.
As a result, I have discontinued use of the PowerCranks for the time being.
Most of the things I hear about PowerCranks (at least the people who stick with them) is that they are wonderful. Is there any possible explanation for the PowerCranks to cause a decrease in performance?
William Jay
Selover City, PA, USA
Scott Saifer replies:
Lateral knee pain
I'm a 25yr old recreational cyclist. The boys say they'd throw me in B grade if I turned up to races but every weekend I'm hitting the hills around my home town training for an upcoming watch/ride tour of Le Grand Boucle where I'm supposed to make it up the Col d'Aubisque and Col du Tourmalet to name a few!
Training's going well and I'm doing 300km plus a week. Last weekend I tackled the biggest climb in my area (6km at 10% with sections at 25%). It was a struggle but the thing that got me worried was I pulled up with pain on the lateral aspect of my right knee (presumably ITB, my left had previously given me trouble on hill running).
I've read things about problems with leg-length discrepancies, seat too far back and incorrect cleat position. I had my bike set up properly when I bought it a year ago and I was wondering are there any "self-check" things I can do as I live in a country area and bike-fit specialists and cycling physios are thin on the ground.
Jason
Steve Hogg replies:
Beating that final hill
I am a 36 year-old male rider and have a question regarding the final hill in our local 75km race and being dropped. I have no problems staying with the bunch on the first and second 25km leg but the third time round I just don't have the legs to stay with the group.
My question is in regard to training to stay in the race past this hill. The hill is about 1km and quite steep, the pace doesn't increase too much through the climb and the grade is constant. I don't know how to train specifically to get past this hurdle.
Do you think it is a muscular endurance issue, a lack of endurance ( I do at least 2-3 rides longer than 70km each week including hills), a lack of food intake (I think I'm consuming enough food and fluid)? I find that a third of the way into the hill I just have nothing left - how do I correct this? What should I work on? Will just racing the course improve me?
Andrew
Carrie Cheadle replies:
Arch cleats - a rebuttal
I have read your articles about arch cleats with interest and have visited the blog of Joe Friel, who is a strong proponent of their use. I am an exercise physiologist and accept that my knowledge of biomechanics is rather limited, but I am concerned that scientific research in this area has been largely ignored in the discussions on Cyclingnews . I urge you to publish this letter so as to bring some balance to the debate.
Van Sickle and Hull (2007) published a study in Journal of Biomechanics which is referred to on Joe Friel's blog. To paraphrase the research, the hypothesis that cycling economy improves when the cleat is moved posteriorly on the foot was tested. Three positions (traditional - cleat under head of first metatarsal; rear - cleat is positioned halfway between the head of the first metatarsal and the posterior end of the calcaneous; and mid - half way between the forward and rear positions) were tested. The cyclists pedalled at 90% of ventilatory threshold at constant power and 90rpm. Robust statistical analysis revealed that cycling economy with arch cleats was no different to a traditional cleat set-up.
There is evidence that, by moving the cleat to a more posterior position, the force demand on the ankle plantar flexors is reduced by about 30% and 65% for the mid and reward foot positions, respectively. This is central to the current hypothesis as to why a reward cleat position is favourable and should improve economy, however, the data does not support this effect. Van Sickle and Hull (2007) point out that, although the ankle plantar flexors primarily act to transfer power from the hip and knee extensors to the crank it is also known they are involved in generating pedalling power.
Consequently, if their involvement in the pedalling action is inhibited by a rearward cleat placement, the force decrement has to be made up by other muscles for there to be no change in cycling economy at constant power. Van Sickle and Hull (2007) attempted to identify the muscles involved but due to the limitations of surface electromyography, were unable to determine from where the additional power was being supplied.
I think a word of caution needs to be brought to this debate. I accept that individuals may have noticed differences in their own performances, but these are hardly objective tests. How does one know that these improvements are not due to random effects, day-to-day heart rate variability, or changes in training status if one does not conduct an objective experiment with statistical analysis?
There may be justification in using an arch cleat for prevention of injury, but there is no published evidence that I can find to support their use in competitive cycling. If Goetz Heine's data provides compelling support for arch cleats then I urge him to make it available for publication and peer review. For the time being, I would recommend that cyclists refrain from making expensive changes to equipment until more is known about the subject.
Mark Walker
Steve Hogg replies:
Arch cleats and pedal release
I didn't want to be the first one to try this.
Have you found that with an arch cleat placement your foot will come out of the pedal as easily in a crash?
Seems to me it wouldn't because you have a shorter lever, ankle to mid foot versus ankle to toe, being used to twist your foot out. My guess is you would want to turn the pedal release tension all the way down if you could.
Mike
Steve Hogg replies:
Foot positioning and Q-factor
Hello Steve,
From watching your 'Sitting Pretty' video I get impression you have a lot of experience positioning feet. Also, with all the discussion on the site about arch-cleats, you are willing to experiment.
I have two questions, one about pedal choice influencing power transfer, and one about Q-factor.
Regarding pedal choice: Is there any credence about large pedal platforms improving power transfer? I noticed that you use Speedplays in the video and you mention them often on the Cyclingnews site, so you must believe it is a good pedal. I have used Look pedals for many years, but I am thinking of making the switch. However, the Speedplays have a smaller platform and I have a wide foot (EE to EEEE depending on the shoe). All the other pedal companies (Time, Shimano and Campagnolo) have increased the width of their pedals. Does Speedplay know something the rest of the manufactures don't know about power transfer?
Regarding Q-factor: It appears that almost everyone is trying to achieve a low Q-factor, but can this introduce an unintended problem of a canted foot? Could the use of wedges be alleviated if rider used a wider Q-factor that fit his body rather than making his body fit a narrow Q-factor by canting the foot? Since I have wide feet, I find my cleat position to be slightly more on the inside to avoid rubbing my foot on the crank arm. I have contemplated using 20mm pedal axle extenders to achieve a better cleat position. Are my thoughts on this issue flawed?
Bill Schott
Steve Hogg replies:
Burning feet sensation
I'm 37 years old, 59kg, 172cm, my main riding aim is long distance touring but I use my bicycle as my main mode of transport daily. The type of shoes I use are Specialized BG Trail 120 SL, their fit is roomy so I can wear thicker socks in colder weather as well. I have the same problem in other shoes, like my Shimano cycling shoes and my hiking boots.
The problem that I'm having is that I get a very painful burning sensation in my right forefoot, mainly towards the smaller toes, which get very painful after a while. This usually starts after about 50km of cycling. I was told by a physiotherapist that I have a collapsed forefoot, which might be related to this problem.
Stijn de Klerk
Steve Hogg replies:
Sesamoiditis
I am fairly new to road cycling and have only occasionally ridden off road on my mountain bike. I am 37 years old, male, 6ft and 90kg and reasonably fit, I have been training hard for two months to get ready for a 240 mile cycle ride.
I have just purchased a new road bike and had it custom built for me along with shoes and pedals, I chose a Sidi hi-tech MTB shoe to cover both bikes which seemed a good option as it has got a very hard sole.
I had been getting on well with everything, done lots of 20-mile rides as well as gym training and one 70-mile ride two weeks ago. Since then I have had a lot of pain in the ball of my right foot which was diagnosed as sesamoiditis by my GP, inflamed tendons under the two small bones in the ball of your foot.
Everyone I know seems to think I have been over training which has caused this problem, but I think it maybe the fact that these shoes have not got a padded insole.
I have rested for 10 days and have been taking strong anti-inflamatories and the foot is getting better, but I don't want it to happen again.
After reading some of your advice online I moved the cleat back 10mm on the right shoe, I have size 11 feet, this does take away the impact at the ball of the foot but, I feel that I am loosing power by doing this.
I have also purchased some running insoles and put them in my cycle shoes and this also appears to help the pressure on the ball of the foot. I have just done a 20 mile ride and my feet don't feel too bad.
My questions are:
1:When the foot is better should I continue to use insoles and if so are there any specifically for cycling?
2: Should I put the cleat back to the ball of the foot or have them both 10mm back?
3:Should I invest in road shoes and pedals to spread the load over the foot? The Sidi MTB shoes are very solid and cost me £155.
Lee
Steve Hogg replies: