Fitness questions and answers for March 22, 2004
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Form & Fitness Q & A
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Carrie Cheadle, MA (www.carriecheadle.com) is a Sports Psychology consultant who has dedicated her career to helping athletes of all ages and abilities perform to their potential. Carrie specialises in working with cyclists, in disciplines ranging from track racing to mountain biking. She holds a bachelors degree in Psychology from Sonoma State University as well as a masters degree in Sport Psychology from John F. Kennedy University.
Dave Palese (www.davepalese.com) is a USA Cycling licensed coach and masters' class road racer with 16 years' race experience. He coaches racers and riders of all abilities from his home in southern Maine, USA, where he lives with his wife Sheryl, daughter Molly, and two cats, Miranda and Mu-Mu.
Kelby Bethards, MD received a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering from Iowa State University (1994) before obtaining an M.D. from the University of Iowa College of Medicine in 2000. Has been a racing cyclist 'on and off' for 20 years, and when time allows, he races Cat 3 and 35+. He is a team physician for two local Ft Collins, CO, teams, and currently works Family Practice in multiple settings: rural, urgent care, inpatient and the like.
Fiona Lockhart (www.trainright.com) is a USA Cycling Expert Coach, and holds certifications from USA Weightlifting (Sports Performance Coach), the National Strength and Conditioning Association (Certified Strength and Conditioning Coach), and the National Academy for Sports Nutrition (Primary Sports Nutritionist). She is the Sports Science Editor for Carmichael Training Systems, and has been working in the strength and conditioning and endurance sports fields for over 10 years; she's also a competitive mountain biker.
Eddie Monnier (www.velo-fit.com) is a USA Cycling certified Elite Coach and a Category II racer. He holds undergraduate degrees in anthropology (with departmental honors) and philosophy from Emory University and an MBA from The Wharton School of Business.
Eddie is a proponent of training with power. He coaches cyclists (track, road and mountain bike) of all abilities and with wide ranging goals (with and without power meters). He uses internet tools to coach riders from any geography.
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David Fleckenstein, MPT (www.physiopt.com) is a physical therapist practicing in Boise, ID. His clients have included World and U.S. champions, Olympic athletes and numerous professional athletes. He received his B.S. in Biology/Genetics from Penn State and his Master's degree in Physical Therapy from Emory University. He specializes in manual medicine treatment and specific retraining of spine and joint stabilization musculature. He is a former Cat I road racer and Expert mountain biker.
Since 1986 Steve Hogg (www.cyclefitcentre.com) has owned and operated Pedal Pushers, a cycle shop specialising in rider positioning and custom bicycles. In that time he has positioned riders from all cycling disciplines and of all levels of ability with every concievable cycling problem.They include World and National champions at one end of the performance spectrum to amputees and people with disabilities at the other end.
Current riders that Steve has positioned include Davitamon-Lotto's Nick Gates, Discovery's Hayden Roulston, National Road Series champion, Jessica Ridder and National and State Time Trial champion, Peter Milostic.
Pamela Hinton has a bachelor's degree in Molecular Biology and a doctoral degree in Nutritional Sciences, both from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She did postdoctoral training at Cornell University and is now an assistant professor of Nutritional Sciences at the University of Missouri-Columbia where she studies the effects of iron deficiency on adaptations to endurance training and the consequences of exercise-associated changes in menstrual function on bone health.
Pam was an All-American in track while at the UW. She started cycling competitively in 2003 and is the defending Missouri State Road Champion. Pam writes a nutrition column for Giana Roberge's Team Speed Queen Newsletter.
Dario Fredrick (www.wholeathlete.com) is an exercise physiologist and head coach for Whole Athlete™. He is a former category 1 & semi-pro MTB racer. Dario holds a masters degree in exercise science and a bachelors in sport psychology.
Scott Saifer (www.wenzelcoaching.com) has a Masters Degree in exercise physiology and sports psychology and has personally coached over 300 athletes of all levels in his 10 years of coaching with Wenzel Coaching.
Kendra Wenzel (www.wenzelcoaching.com) is a head coach with Wenzel Coaching with 17 years of racing and coaching experience and is coauthor of the book Bike Racing 101.
Steve Owens (www.coloradopremiertraining.com) is a USA Cycling certified coach, exercise physiologist and owner of Colorado Premier Training. Steve has worked with both the United States Olympic Committee and Guatemalan Olympic Committee as an Exercise Physiologist. He holds a B.S. in Exercise & Sports Science and currently works with multiple national champions, professionals and World Cup level cyclists.
Through his highly customized online training format, Steve and his handpicked team of coaches at Colorado Premier Training work with cyclists and multisport athletes around the world.
Brett Aitken (www.cycle2max.com) is a Sydney Olympic gold medalist. Born in Adelaide, Australia in 1971, Brett got into cycling through the cult sport of cycle speedway before crossing over into road and track racing. Since winning Olympic gold in the Madison with Scott McGrory, Brett has been working on his coaching business and his www.cycle2max.com website.
Richard Stern (www.cyclecoach.com) is Head Coach of Richard Stern Training, a Level 3 Coach with the Association of British Cycling Coaches, a Sports Scientist, and a writer. He has been professionally coaching cyclists and triathletes since 1998 at all levels from professional to recreational. He is a leading expert in coaching with power output and all power meters. Richard has been a competitive cyclist for 20 years
Andy Bloomer (www.cyclecoach.com) is an Associate Coach and sport scientist with Richard Stern Training. He is a member of the Association of British Cycling Coaches (ABCC) and a member of the British Association of Sport and Exercise Sciences (BASES). In his role as Exercise Physiologist at Staffordshire University Sports Performance Centre, he has conducted physiological testing and offered training and coaching advice to athletes from all sports for the past 4 years. Andy has been a competitive cyclist for many years.
Michael Smartt (www.cyclecoach.com) is an Associate Coach with Richard Stern Training. He holds a Masters degree in exercise physiology and is USA Cycling Expert Coach. Michael has been a competitive cyclist for over 10 years and has experience coaching road and off-road cyclists, triathletes and Paralympians.
Kim Morrow (www.elitefitcoach.com) has competed as a Professional Cyclist and Triathlete, is a certified USA Cycling Elite Coach, a 4-time U.S. Masters National Road Race Champion, and a Fitness Professional.
Her coaching group, eliteFITcoach, is based out of the Southeastern United States, although they coach athletes across North America. Kim also owns MyEnduranceCoach.com, a resource for cyclists, multisport athletes & endurance coaches around the globe, specializing in helping cycling and multisport athletes find a coach.
Training output
Saddle height
Cleat position and knee soreness
Group vs solo
ACL Tear
Leg length discrepancy
Dinner and recovery
Training output
I am 49 years old and a mountain biker of 5 years. For the last 3 years I have been doing vigorous indoor training on a RevMaster, during spinning classes. I have always known that the "220 - age" did not apply to me. To offset that knowledge, I was just adding 100 BPM to whatever % of output was being asked for. For example, if the instructor wanted us to go up to 85% of max, I would take my heart-rate to 185 BPM.
This worked fine and I was very often up to and above 195 during spinning classes. I was doing this 4 or 5 times a week for months. When I came across the Karvonen method of measuring heart-rate, I immediately adopted it. The highest I ever got my HR to, was 200 and my resting HR is around 65. I have been using the new scale for 4 or 5 weeks now and I seldom get my heart rate over 187 now. My question is, have I diminished my heart's ability to work at high levels and in fact worsened my conditioning?
Bill Baker
MN, USA
Scott Saifer replies:
Saddle height
I am an intermediate cyclist in above average condition and content with my current workout and diet, however I have a question about bike set-up that I would genuinely appreciate your input. Could you please tell me what is the optimum method for figuring saddle height on a road bike in stage-race-type settings (non-crit, non-time trial). With the crank arm at its lowest position, should the leg be fully extended? Almost extended? I have heard so many theories on this subject that I don't know what to believe?
Troy Reust
Dario Fredrick replies:
Ric Stern replies:
Cleat position and knee soreness
I am a recreational road cyclist aged 31 height 172cm. weight 74kg and I've been riding only about two years averaging probably less than 100 k's a week. I have recently upped the training a bit (maybe 150k/week) with the idea of trying racing by the end of the year. Unfortunately at the same time I bought new shoes and have started having some knee problems. I tend to believe the shoes are somehow responsible although I must admit to insufficient warm-ups before my rides to and from work, which both start with savage little hills. Originally I was wearing a pair of cheaper Lake tri shoes with just one strap I got second hand. The new ones are three strap carbon soled beauties and I can definitely feel the difference in power getting through to the pedals both upwards and down. I'm still using red Look cleats and mid range Look pedals.
The pain is on the inner side of the knee about an inch below the knee cap. It's not bad enough to stop riding (although I have just taken a precautionary week off) but is kind of stopping me giving everything in the inevitable races to the next light post. Initially I thought I had set the cleats up running too straight along the shoes (my feet splay out a fair bit when I walk) but turning them around to match more closely the angle of my feet when standing/walking doesn't seem to have helped as I am sore again today from my ten kilometre ride to work. Is fore and aft position important as well? Does the size of the foot make any difference - mine are pretty small for a guy at European 40. Really I was just wondering if you could tell me how to work out the best set up for your shoes/cleats/pedals and what other factors may be involved in my present discomfort.
Julian Porter
Brisbane, Australia
Dario Fredrick replies:
Eddie Monnier replies:
Dave Fleckenstein replies:
Group vs solo
My question is simple. For overall fitness, is it better to train alone or with the local club? I am 33 years old and have been cycling for 20 years. I would like to see some dramatic results this year.
Jason Keller
USA
Kim Morrow replies:
ACL Tear
I am a 35 y/o masters cyclist in California, Cat 4 and very competitive in mixed Cat 3/4 races, and had an MRI confirmed ACL tear 1 ½ weeks ago while attempting to ski. Initially, I had a lot of swelling and decreased range of motion, but not anymore. Actually, I am able to spin on my trainer for 1-2 hrs without pain, but obviously only using small gears. Being that I am a physician, I have done my literature search and none of it has been reassuring. The risks involved in the surgery, post op complications and conflicting data reports seem a bit too high.
I come to you for advice with the conservative treatment modalities. It is my intention to continue cycling, and improve over the years, so I need to have all my options in front of me before making a decision. I realize you probably make a living doing these sort of consultations, so if some form of payment is required, please let me know.
I would appreciate any direction you can provide in this matter.
Dave Fleckenstein replies:
Leg length discrepancy
First I just want to thank you for all of your expert advice. I have a couple quick questions. I am relatively new to the sport of cycling and am in the base endurance building phase of my training program. On recieving my yearly phycical my Doctor happened to mention, out of the blue, that my left leg is 2 cm shorter than my right. I do not notice anything when I am on the bike, but I am wondering, since it is early in my training regiment, should I try and fix this? Second, I have been experiencing some tenderness in my achillies tendons and it seems to happen as a result of dropping my heels when climbing. Should I simple try and climb without trying to harness that extra power one gets when dropping ones heels on climbs? I am 26 yrs. old, 5' 11", and about 170 lbs.
Steve Navratil
Charlotte NC
Dave Fleckenstein replies:
Dinner and recovery
I'm a 30 year old category 3 racer with a full time job. I've been wondering about this question for a little while now.
I work 8am - 4pm and ride after work. I've read some places that you shouldn't have a large/heavy meal up to 3 hours before you go to bed. Claims of that food being more readily stored as fat are on my mind. Since I go to bed at 10pm that would put me at approximately 7pm for my last meal of the night. However, by the time I get home, get changed and head out the door it can be almost 5 o'clock some days. My dilema is that when I want to do 3+ hour rides or go on the 6pm group ride, these will generally bring me home past 8pm, what should I be doing for proper food intake and also avoid that feeling of eating too close to bed. Going to bed later isn't really an option as I have to be well rested to function at work the next day.
Should I be focusing more on recovery based shakes and bars? Eating a "real" meal is a lot more appealing to me.
Peter Rhodes
Concord, NH USA
Ric Stern replies: