Fitness questions and answers for March 13, 2007
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Carrie Cheadle, MA (www.carriecheadle.com) is a Sports Psychology consultant who has dedicated her career to helping athletes of all ages and abilities perform to their potential. Carrie specialises in working with cyclists, in disciplines ranging from track racing to mountain biking. She holds a bachelors degree in Psychology from Sonoma State University as well as a masters degree in Sport Psychology from John F. Kennedy University.
Dave Palese (www.davepalese.com) is a USA Cycling licensed coach and masters' class road racer with 16 years' race experience. He coaches racers and riders of all abilities from his home in southern Maine, USA, where he lives with his wife Sheryl, daughter Molly, and two cats, Miranda and Mu-Mu.
Kelby Bethards, MD received a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering from Iowa State University (1994) before obtaining an M.D. from the University of Iowa College of Medicine in 2000. Has been a racing cyclist 'on and off' for 20 years, and when time allows, he races Cat 3 and 35+. He is a team physician for two local Ft Collins, CO, teams, and currently works Family Practice in multiple settings: rural, urgent care, inpatient and the like.
Fiona Lockhart (www.trainright.com) is a USA Cycling Expert Coach, and holds certifications from USA Weightlifting (Sports Performance Coach), the National Strength and Conditioning Association (Certified Strength and Conditioning Coach), and the National Academy for Sports Nutrition (Primary Sports Nutritionist). She is the Sports Science Editor for Carmichael Training Systems, and has been working in the strength and conditioning and endurance sports fields for over 10 years; she's also a competitive mountain biker.
Eddie Monnier (www.velo-fit.com) is a USA Cycling certified Elite Coach and a Category II racer. He holds undergraduate degrees in anthropology (with departmental honors) and philosophy from Emory University and an MBA from The Wharton School of Business.
Eddie is a proponent of training with power. He coaches cyclists (track, road and mountain bike) of all abilities and with wide ranging goals (with and without power meters). He uses internet tools to coach riders from any geography.
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David Fleckenstein, MPT (www.physiopt.com) is a physical therapist practicing in Boise, ID. His clients have included World and U.S. champions, Olympic athletes and numerous professional athletes. He received his B.S. in Biology/Genetics from Penn State and his Master's degree in Physical Therapy from Emory University. He specializes in manual medicine treatment and specific retraining of spine and joint stabilization musculature. He is a former Cat I road racer and Expert mountain biker.
Since 1986 Steve Hogg (www.cyclefitcentre.com) has owned and operated Pedal Pushers, a cycle shop specialising in rider positioning and custom bicycles. In that time he has positioned riders from all cycling disciplines and of all levels of ability with every concievable cycling problem.They include World and National champions at one end of the performance spectrum to amputees and people with disabilities at the other end.
Current riders that Steve has positioned include Davitamon-Lotto's Nick Gates, Discovery's Hayden Roulston, National Road Series champion, Jessica Ridder and National and State Time Trial champion, Peter Milostic.
Pamela Hinton has a bachelor's degree in Molecular Biology and a doctoral degree in Nutritional Sciences, both from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She did postdoctoral training at Cornell University and is now an assistant professor of Nutritional Sciences at the University of Missouri-Columbia where she studies the effects of iron deficiency on adaptations to endurance training and the consequences of exercise-associated changes in menstrual function on bone health.
Pam was an All-American in track while at the UW. She started cycling competitively in 2003 and is the defending Missouri State Road Champion. Pam writes a nutrition column for Giana Roberge's Team Speed Queen Newsletter.
Dario Fredrick (www.wholeathlete.com) is an exercise physiologist and head coach for Whole Athlete™. He is a former category 1 & semi-pro MTB racer. Dario holds a masters degree in exercise science and a bachelors in sport psychology.
Scott Saifer (www.wenzelcoaching.com) has a Masters Degree in exercise physiology and sports psychology and has personally coached over 300 athletes of all levels in his 10 years of coaching with Wenzel Coaching.
Kendra Wenzel (www.wenzelcoaching.com) is a head coach with Wenzel Coaching with 17 years of racing and coaching experience and is coauthor of the book Bike Racing 101.
Steve Owens (www.coloradopremiertraining.com) is a USA Cycling certified coach, exercise physiologist and owner of Colorado Premier Training. Steve has worked with both the United States Olympic Committee and Guatemalan Olympic Committee as an Exercise Physiologist. He holds a B.S. in Exercise & Sports Science and currently works with multiple national champions, professionals and World Cup level cyclists.
Through his highly customized online training format, Steve and his handpicked team of coaches at Colorado Premier Training work with cyclists and multisport athletes around the world.
Brett Aitken (www.cycle2max.com) is a Sydney Olympic gold medalist. Born in Adelaide, Australia in 1971, Brett got into cycling through the cult sport of cycle speedway before crossing over into road and track racing. Since winning Olympic gold in the Madison with Scott McGrory, Brett has been working on his coaching business and his www.cycle2max.com website.
Richard Stern (www.cyclecoach.com) is Head Coach of Richard Stern Training, a Level 3 Coach with the Association of British Cycling Coaches, a Sports Scientist, and a writer. He has been professionally coaching cyclists and triathletes since 1998 at all levels from professional to recreational. He is a leading expert in coaching with power output and all power meters. Richard has been a competitive cyclist for 20 years
Andy Bloomer (www.cyclecoach.com) is an Associate Coach and sport scientist with Richard Stern Training. He is a member of the Association of British Cycling Coaches (ABCC) and a member of the British Association of Sport and Exercise Sciences (BASES). In his role as Exercise Physiologist at Staffordshire University Sports Performance Centre, he has conducted physiological testing and offered training and coaching advice to athletes from all sports for the past 4 years. Andy has been a competitive cyclist for many years.
Michael Smartt (www.cyclecoach.com) is an Associate Coach with Richard Stern Training. He holds a Masters degree in exercise physiology and is USA Cycling Expert Coach. Michael has been a competitive cyclist for over 10 years and has experience coaching road and off-road cyclists, triathletes and Paralympians.
Kim Morrow (www.elitefitcoach.com) has competed as a Professional Cyclist and Triathlete, is a certified USA Cycling Elite Coach, a 4-time U.S. Masters National Road Race Champion, and a Fitness Professional.
Her coaching group, eliteFITcoach, is based out of the Southeastern United States, although they coach athletes across North America. Kim also owns MyEnduranceCoach.com, a resource for cyclists, multisport athletes & endurance coaches around the globe, specializing in helping cycling and multisport athletes find a coach.
UCI positioning regulations
Chamois cream
Longer cranks?
Bike re-fit
Left knee pain
Training whilst on antibiotics
Pelvic symmetry
Q-factor across cranksets
Different crank lengths
Leg length discrepancy
UCI positioning regulations
Do you ever think the UCI's overreaction to Graeme Obree's radical positioning will ever end? Why do professional cyclists accept this absolutely daft ruling?
It is actually embarrassing watching the UCI. men with blazers checking this out on the pro bikes at some of the races I have attended.
Sorry as a Scot who lives not that far away from Graeme it still rankles!
David Norwich.
Fountainhall, Scotland
Steve Hogg replies:
Chamois cream
At what point should I consider using a chamois cream to improve my saddle comfort and my "butt" post ride comfort? Is it a matter of ride duration i.e. hours in the saddle? Or is the need to use such a cream for a three hour ride an indication that there is a problem with saddle position or with my saddle/butt compatibility?
I do not get any saddle sores after three hours in the saddle and I have very comfortable high quality bibs (Assos), I get out of the saddle every 10-15 min for 30-60sec. I do not experience any particular saddle discomfort during the ride either.
But there is a slight tender/warm feeling, down there, post ride which lasts for ~24 hours. After 1-2 days off the bike it all clears up. I was thinking to try some Assos chamois cream (or something else?) but am concerned I would be masking a saddle fit problem.
Yuri Budilov
Melbourne, Australia
Steve Hogg replies:
Longer cranks?
I'm 197cm tall and have an inseam of 94cm. I have recently purchased 180mm cranks as I have read a number of reports indicating I should have cranks at around this length based on my inseam. My old cranks were 175mm.
After changing to the larger 180 cranks and lowering my seat height to allow for the extra 5mm I took the bike for a ride and noticed a drop in performance. Thinking this was possibly a bad day I persisted with the longer cranks for a month. However, the whole month with 180 cranks was below my standard level, especially when climbing.
I then changed back to the 175 cranks and was instantly back up to my old race level.
I'd be happy with the fact that the longer cranks don't work for me, but I actually feel like I have a smoother pedal stroke when I have the longer cranks fitted.
Does this make sense? Do you think I should try the longer cranks again or do the results of a lower performance show the results?
Darren
Steve Hogg replies:
Bike re-fit?
As I work myself into shape and gain strength, it only makes sense to me that my position on the bike should improve. How often should I have my fit/position checked and adjusted?
Colin Toal
Toronto
Steve Hogg replies:
Left knee pain
This is my second year of serious cycling and last year I rode close to 6000 kilometres without any pain or aches. At the time I was running Speedplay x5s and everything seemed quite alright. During one of my rides when I was pushing very large gears I ended up causing some sort of injury to both of my legs. After the ride I felt fine but 3-4 hours later there was this really sharp pain on the sides of my knees that just seemed to not want to go away.
At first I didn't think it was a big deal so I pushed right through the pain but it never got better, contrary to that it actually started to get worse. I stopped training for 4 weeks and decided to get a physiotherapist's help. He diagnosed the problem as the little tendon on the outside of my calf, right behind the knee and on the outer edge (I think he was correct).
After 3 sessions I felt reasonably good and I was back on the bike. I gradually moved from 2 hours of training per rides/week to 8 hours in the span of 4-5 weeks. However things have really changed since the day of that ride (November 25th 2006). My right leg seems to have recovered just fine and it is back to normal, but my left knee seems to be in quite a bit of disarray (I should mention that I have switched my shoes and cleats since then to the Zeros and the Nike Lance shoes).
I have less pain in my left knee when I spin faster and when I don't push large gears. I have no pain if I go through a really intense workout, the pain just seems to disappear. I have been doing some core training (hip flexors, adductors and abductors) and my knee is feeling a bit better on the bike, I am almost painless during the days that I spend 2 hours on the trainer.
It is hard to explain but I know something is wrong with my left knee. It is always kind of stiff and I hate any short distance walks because that's when the aches and pains really resurface.
So to be more clear, I have a lot more pain off the bike than on the bike. I am ok with that but I am planning to race and bike for a long time and I want to know if I can do anything to go back to the pain free days. I had my roommate have a look at my pedal stroke from the front and he mentioned that when I pedal my left knee tends to go out (get a way from the top tube) when coming up (moving from 6 to 12 position) and move in (get closer to the top tube) during the down stroke (12-6) and he mentioned that my right leg and knee don't seem to move half as much.
How can I address this problem? I should also mention that when I am pedaling I can totally notice that my right leg is much close to the top tube (almost brushes against it) than my left leg, I try to bring my left leg in but when I don't look it just moves right out.
My pain and aches are all on the outside of my left knee (right where the IT band and the big hamstring tendons are).
Hani
Steve Hogg replies:
Training whilst on antibiotics
In a recent letter someone asks about training while on antibiotics. I was a bit surprised that the response by Dr. Bethards did not mention problems with fluoroquninolones in particular.
I know that one should not run for a while after taking these due to tendon problems (including ruptures) as a common side effect. Is that not a problem while cycling? If there is no alternative anti-biotic, then should training not be limited?
Farda Halasson
Kelby Bathards replies:
Pelvic symmetry
I read with great interest Steve Hogg's paper on pelvic symmetry. I am currently dealing with this issue and it is to the point where it is completely ruining the sport for me. I can't sit still on the seat. My right hip wants to move forward, making my body point to the left, causing the left leg to feel out of sorts, etc. It's almost as if my right leg is acting shorter, even though the bones have been measured several times to be equal.
Even out of the saddle pedaling, I notice that my right upper leg appears to be more inward and pointing down, compared to the left leg.
I've had as much as half an inch of spacers under the right shoe to try to make up for this problem, but it doesn't really help since it isn't a true leg length problem.
I've been to chiro, physio and osteo. All of them figure I've got some sort of pelvic problem, likely caused by some sort of muscle imbalance, hamstrings, etc. but none have been able to help. I am going for some x-rays soon in hopes to at least see where the bones have settled..
With regards to your suggestion of the FSA saddle that adjusts side to side, how does this help? And if I were to try it, would I move the saddle to the right, where my body wants to push the hip forward, or do I move the saddle to the left?
Thanks, I really appreciate any assistance you can give. I'm on the east coast of Canada, Nova Scotia. If I lived (a lot) closer to you, I'd come in for an actual fitting!
Kevin Besner
Steve Hogg replies:
Q-factor across cranksets
I am very happy with some recent changes to my position as I bought a new bike. However, I feel like my feet are too far apart. I am using a Dura-Ace crank. I can not find info on the Q-factor of various cranks. I intend to purchase a compact crank once I start riding mostly outside. Can you advise me of how different cranks Q-factors compare? Or is another way to solve this problem? Thanks for your help!
Bryin Sills
Steve Hogg replies:
Different crank lengths
I read Steve Hogg's article on pelvic asymmetry and it got me pretty excited.
I am a 37 year old male cat 4 racer. I have a 2cm leg length difference measured from a scanogram, it is almost all accounted for in the femur; my right femur is shorter. I was born with a fully dislocated right hip and as a result have CDH [congenital dislocation of the hip - ed]. I have less mobility in my right hip as well.
I've moved my cleats to help a bit and have moved my seat forward a bit, both helped. When I'm on my bike dropping a plumb line from my knee indicates that my pelvis is rotated such that my right hip is further back than my left, exacerbating the leg length difference, my right knee is 4 to 5cm behind my left when the pedal is at 9 o'clock.
Briefly I tried a stack under my right shoe but my decreased hip mobility caused too much trouble, my hip felt very tight at the top of the stroke.
To further complicate matters, my neutral right leg position is slightly rotated out (my toes point out), my left is pretty much straight ahead.
I use egg beaters on all my bikes and ride mostly with Shimano M225 shoes but will gladly consider alternatives.
Under what circumstances would one use crank arms of different lengths and would moving my seat laterally towards my shorter leg be helpful? I'm worked my pedal on that side already should me moved out to compensate for my outward pointing foot.
Scott
Steve Hogg replies:
Leg length discrepancy
I have had a bone measurement and my right femur is 10mm shorter than my left. Under power I drop my left hip and I sit with my left hip more forward than the right. I have now developed IT band syndrome on my short side which I believe is being caused by the fact that on my short side I walk heavily on the outside of my foot.
I am going to try a Specialized Valgus wedge on my short side to see if that helps with the IT band issue. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Do you know anyone who has made a full recovery from IT band issues?
Matthew Mattice
Steve Hogg replies: